The Blackhorn 209 functions this 3" Benelli
Recently I was given a sample of a new muzzle loading propellant to test out. According to the label it is meant for modern muzzle loaders using a 209 shotgun primer hence its name. One thing I found out right off is its low density as the kernels are hollow. It comes in a conventional 1 lb can but contains only 10oz of powder. You could say it is the black powder equivalent of Trail Boss. The powder is black and looks like an extruded powder such as 4895. However the kernels are hollow which makes it less dense. Another plus with this powder is it meters very consistently in a powder measure. They also carry the AA line of powders which I count among my favorites. They can be contacted at www.blackhorn209.com or call 406-234-0422
Any one who loads for black powder arms should definately give this powder a try
Since I do a lot of obsolete cartridge firearms I decided to load in some of my rifles chambered for the oldies. I loaded it the same as I do black powder or a substitute meaning that the loads are slightly compressed. There is no information regarding loading this powder in cartridge firearms so I am on my own. Right away I found that you can’t put a much of the 209 in a case as other black powder and the various substitutes that I have worked with. For instance in a 38-55 case 30 grains is about all that will fit where I can put 40 of the others in the same case. Anyway I loaded some with a 245 grain cast bullet and chronographed. In spite of the lesser amount powder I obtained some pretty impressive velocities in the 1500 fps range. I know that the chronograph is working fine because the recoil felt like 1500 and I did some other loads with known velocities. That may not be scientific but if you are familiar with a certain gun you can tell the difference between 12 and 1500 feet per second. I ran two loads one with standard primers and the second with a magnum brand. There was a little difference but it wasn’t enough to worry about. All the loads I shot so far were consistent indicating good ignition. I used some in the 45-70 with a 300 grain bullet and like the 38-55 it produced good velocities with a lesser amount of powder then the black powder and its substitutes. For now I am going to treat it like the other powders I am using such as Clean Shot and various Pyrodex and black powders. That means that I will not allow any loads with airspace because like the others it may be a danger. However the lab informs me that they have shot loads that didn’t fill up the case and obtained decent results though the velocities were low. Here are some loads that I shot and chronographed.
LOAD BULLET VELOCITY COMMENT
23 X 209 170 grain (32-40) CCI 200 1507 es 32
23 X 209 170 grain (32-40) WW mag 1541 es 71
30 X 209 245 grain (38-55) CCI 200 1517 consistent
30 X 209 245 grain (38-55) CCI 250 1526 very consistent
45 X 209 300 grain cast (45-70) 1492 consistent
35 X 209 400 grain cast (45-70) 1325 consistent
24 X 209 200 grain cast (44-40) 849 es 60
40 X 209 300 grain cast (12.17 X 44 1402 es 39
14 X 209 158 grain cast 38 spec CCI 550 738 (model 15 4” consistent
16 X 209 158 grain cast 357 CCI 550 880 (Ruger 6&1/2” consistent
16 X 209 158 grain cast 357 CCI 550 762 (S & W 2 &1/2” v consistent
10 X 209 115 grain cast 32-20 WW sp 586 Colt 6” ok
10 X 209 115 grain cast 32-20 FED SR Mag 587 Colt 6” consistent
55 X 209 300 grain cast 45-90 WW mag 1656 consistent
50 X 209 400 grain cast 45-90 WW mag 1469 nice
69 X 209 535 grain cast 45-120 WW mag 1692 ouch
10.5 X 209 200 grain cast 41 L Colt 41 mag reformed CCI 350 642 consistent
53 X 209 385 grain cast 11 mm Gras WWLRM 1669 good load
53 X 209 385 grain cast 11 mm Gras CCI 250 1655 es 12
49 X 209 385 grain cast 43 Spanish WWLRP 1577 nice
13 X 209 135 grain COP JAC 9.4 Dutch 619 high es
11 X 209 180 grain cast 9.4 Dutch 557 ok
25 X 209 165 grain cast 30-30 1606 consistent
25 X 209 165 grain Spitzer 30-30 1565 ok
33 X 209 165 grain cast 303 British 1869 consistent
38 X 209 165 grain cast 30-40 Krag 1972 consistent
24 X 209 250 grain cast 45 Colt RP cases 803 consistent
24 X 209 250 grain cast 45 Colt Starline cases 799 consistent
16.5 X 209 230 grain cast 45 auto 679 very consistent
16.5 X 209 230 copper plated 45 auto 655 consistent
30.5 X 209 140 grain cast 6.5 Dutch 1765 high es
30.5 X 209 160 grain RN 6.5 Dutch 1604 high es
The 11 mm Gras benefited from using Blackhorn 209
I have developed a load that is suitable for shotguns. It is 70 grains of 209 and 1 & 1/8 oz of shot. I use a thin wad as the powder takes up a lot of space. A Winchester AA or similar shell works the best. The load functions a 3" benelli with no problems where upon it won't function with a low brass load. Penetration of the 209 load seems to be adequete for bird hunting.
Another observation is this powder smokes but not a much as some of the others. It burns clean not leaving much residue in the gun or case. I have found very little residue in the cases and the outside is very clean with the exception of a couple of the smaller rounds. The cases have soot from low pressure loads in such calibers as the 9.4 Dutch. With black powder or Cleanshot there is a lot of residue in the cases which must be cleaned out prior to reloading. Sizing the case usually helps with that. If you don’t tumble it first the black powder and Cleanshot adhere to the case walls and sizing will knock it off. The barrel is clean as it is advertised as being non corrosive. Also it isn’t particularly pleasant to inhale. I tried 25 grains in a 44-40 case as a blank but the powder didn’t make much noise and due to weak loads jammed the gun. Other then large rifle cases it probably isn’t suitable for blanks. I haven’t experimented much in that area. Shotguns are another area that I am currently working on and there seems to be some potential there though I haven’t finished the work there yet.
47-70 cartridge made in the 1880's
Shooting the 45-120 with a 535 grain at 1700 was an experience that I don’t care to repeat very often. It definitely rattled the teeth. The Gras was also somewhat frisky but like the 120 loads were very consistent. The 43 Spanish also did well with this powder. All in all I find that this powder produces higher velocities then black powder or any other substitute I have tried especially in the larger rifle rounds. I hope to use the French Gras on a buffalo with 209 as the propellant. I have no doubt that it will deliver the goods. It is a very worthwhile addition to anyone who shoots black powder type arms. My shelf will always have it around.
Bob Shell
The 43 Spanish really perked up when fed Black Horn 209
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To the Board of Directors,
Gentlemen I`am writing to present you with an idea that i think you may possibly find advantageous to your company. As i`am sure you are aware there is a great interest in whats called "Cowboy Action" shooting in this country and more and more guns of yesteryear are being resurected by the companies that make reproduction firearms.
The sport is growing constantly and the gun makers are constantly looking for ways to take even more advantage of this ever growing market. Guns like the Henry rifle,Spencer carbine, Colt and Remington conversion revolvers and the Colt 1872 Open Top and others are on the market and doudtless other guns of history will be made in the future.
The arms makers try to be as authenic as possible in their copies but one thing keeps them from being "true" copies.The majority of these guns are being made in calibers that the original guns were never made in.The Henry, Spencer,the majority of early Colts were made in rimfire calibers. Ammunition that has`nt been made by American companies since the 1920`s and early 30`s.But with the resurgence in interest in the old guns of our history and boost in ammo sales that go along with it i think it is time to resurect the original ammo these guns used as well. I ask you to think about it and concider this.
The new guns are generally offered in 2 and sometimes 3 caliber options, none of which were ever used in the originals to begin with. If the original rimfire calibers were offered as an addtional caliber option and the ammo for those calibers were available i believe both the guns and ammo sales would skyrocket.
Authenticity is what it is all about with the cowboy action crowd and the collectors and other shooters of these guns.What could be more "authenic" that having a repro in it`s original
chambering rather than a caliber that never was used in the original? Not to mention the fact that if ammo were available once again people that own originals like myself would love to be able to shoot them as well.
i believe that if arrangements could be reached between the gun makers and your company in that they would make the guns with their original calibers as options and you in turn make the ammo available i think it would be a boost in sales for both. I ask both of you to do this.
The gun makers offer the guns in their original calibers as a limited trial. You in turn make a limited run of the ammo. you both market the availablity of guns and ammo and see how it works. I believe you will find a gold mine has been discovered.
About 20 yrs ago i wrote a letter to your company asking that you concider making various rimfire ammo available again for people like myself who own antiques and would love to shoot them if ammo were available.My letter made it into the hands of someone { can`t recall who}
but he was a higher up in the company at the time.
He wrote me back saying he personally thought i had a good idea and he had presented my idea before the board and they turned it down saying they did`nt believe there was enouht of a market out there
Well things have changed quite a lot since then and i think that my idea might be worth concideration once again. I hope you agree as well.
Sincerely,
Robert Heins