Shooting the
J Reeb Drilling
Deciphering a
Drilling
For those who might not know a drilling is a
three barreled gun. Usually the top two barrels are shotgun while the bottom is
a rifle. Many of the older drillings are chambered for 16 gauge though the 12
shows up fairly often. The only question with them is the length of the chamber
and if it is a black powder or smokeless piece. If it has Damascus barrels you
should stick to black powder after making sure the gun is safe to shoot. Also
many of them have 2 & ½” chambers as opposed to the more modern 2 & ¾”
Storage for extra ammo |
The fun begins when you want to shoot the
rifle barrel. Frequently the barrels are not marked and each maker chambered
his guns for unique cartridges designed by his company. That is where advanced ammo making and
reloading techniques come in handy. You have to have a good understanding of
these guns to make safe and shootable ammo. Some are made back in the last
quarter of the 19’th century to the early years of the 20’th. You should
ascertain that the gun is sound and safe to shoot. If not sure consult a
competent gunsmith beforehand. Many of the drillings were made in Germany which
generally guarantees good quality. Some made elsewhere may or may not be so
good. They are complicated and expensive
because of the firing mechanisms. You generally have two triggers to fire three
barrels which necessitates a lever on top or the side to determine which barrel
you want to fire. That involves extra parts and fitting which adds to the cost.
An advantage to owning a drilling is you have two guns in one. You have a
shotgun or rifle at your command. Most
of the rifle calibers range from adequate to good large game cartridges though
there are exceptions. I ran into a 22 Hornet barrel once.
After you
determine that it is safe you need to figure out what the chambering is.
Usually the best way is to do a chamber cast. By far cerrosafe is the best
product to use. It melts at low temperatures, around 170 degrees making it
relatively easy to use. It can be purchased at Brownells or Midway. After you
clean the chamber you put a plug in the barrel about ½” in the rifling which
will also give you the bullet diameter. You should have a tin type of container
that you can melt it and pour into the chamber. It cools rapidly and after a
couple of minutes you can tap it out. You should have a cast of the chamber and
rifling. Then you have to find which case you will use to form the brass. This
is where some knowledge is essential to make good cases. If you are unable to do this, the cast can be
sent to a custom reloader to make some ammo for you. Be prepared to pay a steep price for that
service.
The gun I
used for this piece was made by a J. Reeb who made guns many years ago in
Germany. It is a well made piece though there is no engraving that is found on
some. Typical of the day the hammers are hard to cock and the triggers have a
heavy pull. I did a chamber cast and
determined that it is a 11 X 60 Mauser round but 3/8” was cut off of the
neck. I made a test round and it fired
perfectly so I trimmed a bunch of cases for working up a load & the owner
wants to hunt with it. It has provisions for a claw mount so when he has one
custom made he can use a scope if desired. Since it shoots an 11 mm bullet big
game at moderate ranges is a viable option. The rifling is good so I expect
some good working accuracy from it. Naturally
we want to shoot this gun. The customer doesn’t want black powder which brings
up another challenge. Is it safe to shoot with light loads of smokeless.?
Through various ways I determined that it was. Since I have worked with similar
guns and calibers in the past I felt on safe ground working up a couple of
loads. I have worked with a couple of 11
X 60 Mausers one was a double rifle that is quite old. Since this cartridge has
a shorter neck I reduced the powder charge by a few grains from the Mauser
loads. The process is called extrapolation and should be attempted by very
experienced reloaders only. I am
happy with these loads as they give plenty of velocity without straining the
old gun. These loads would be very adequate for deer and black bear at woods
ranges. Once a scope is mounted it will make a nice addition to any hunting
rifle collection. The iron sights are not that good. A little research from a German friend has
probably come up with the proper name for this cartridge. It is a 11,03x50R Scheibengewehr an obscure round from the 19’th century. The picture
closely resembles the fired cases I have.
LOAD BULLET VELOCITY COMMENT
31 X 5744 300 grain cast 1615 very consistent
37 X IMR 4198
300 grain cast 1698 ok
27 X 5744 370 grain cast 1388 very consistent
33 X IMR 4198
370 grain cast 1517 ok
It’s always a great opportunity to get an old
gun to shoot well.
Shooting drilling
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To the Board of Directors,
Gentlemen I`am writing to present you with an idea that i think you may possibly find advantageous to your company. As i`am sure you are aware there is a great interest in whats called "Cowboy Action" shooting in this country and more and more guns of yesteryear are being resurected by the companies that make reproduction firearms.
The sport is growing constantly and the gun makers are constantly looking for ways to take even more advantage of this ever growing market. Guns like the Henry rifle,Spencer carbine, Colt and Remington conversion revolvers and the Colt 1872 Open Top and others are on the market and doudtless other guns of history will be made in the future.
The arms makers try to be as authenic as possible in their copies but one thing keeps them from being "true" copies.The majority of these guns are being made in calibers that the original guns were never made in.The Henry, Spencer,the majority of early Colts were made in rimfire calibers. Ammunition that has`nt been made by American companies since the 1920`s and early 30`s.But with the resurgence in interest in the old guns of our history and boost in ammo sales that go along with it i think it is time to resurect the original ammo these guns used as well. I ask you to think about it and concider this.
The new guns are generally offered in 2 and sometimes 3 caliber options, none of which were ever used in the originals to begin with. If the original rimfire calibers were offered as an addtional caliber option and the ammo for those calibers were available i believe both the guns and ammo sales would skyrocket.
Authenticity is what it is all about with the cowboy action crowd and the collectors and other shooters of these guns.What could be more "authenic" that having a repro in it`s original
chambering rather than a caliber that never was used in the original? Not to mention the fact that if ammo were available once again people that own originals like myself would love to be able to shoot them as well.
i believe that if arrangements could be reached between the gun makers and your company in that they would make the guns with their original calibers as options and you in turn make the ammo available i think it would be a boost in sales for both. I ask both of you to do this.
The gun makers offer the guns in their original calibers as a limited trial. You in turn make a limited run of the ammo. you both market the availablity of guns and ammo and see how it works. I believe you will find a gold mine has been discovered.
About 20 yrs ago i wrote a letter to your company asking that you concider making various rimfire ammo available again for people like myself who own antiques and would love to shoot them if ammo were available.My letter made it into the hands of someone { can`t recall who}
but he was a higher up in the company at the time.
He wrote me back saying he personally thought i had a good idea and he had presented my idea before the board and they turned it down saying they did`nt believe there was enouht of a market out there
Well things have changed quite a lot since then and i think that my idea might be worth concideration once again. I hope you agree as well.
Sincerely,
Robert Heins